In this episode, Kate was joined by Mark Groves to discuss self-growth and healing following breakups, separation and divorce.

Mark is a Human Connection Specialist, speaker, writer, and motivator. Mark founded Create The Love a platform that guides people to design the life and love they long for, following on from his own rock bottom when his relationship ended. He hosts The Mark Groves Podcast and has a significant following on social media where he shares his insight into relationships. 

In this episode, Kate and Mark explore how to heal from a breakup or a separation. They also looked at the context of marriage and relationships, including how society perpetuates ‘bad’ breakups by reinforcing shame and guilt on those going through them. Mark explained the paradox of not having ‘important’ conversations, out of fear of losing that relationship, when in reality, silence often contributes to relationship breakdown. They looked at whether the way people deal with breakups is gendered and how we could do more to help cultivate healthy relationships individually and as a society. They agreed that a relationship ending is not a failure, but rather an opportunity for self-exploration and growth.