In this episode, Kate was joined by Katherine Woodward Thomas to talk about conscious uncoupling. 

Katherine is perhaps best known for having coined the phrase ‘conscious uncoupling’ famously used by Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin to describe their separation in 2014 and the topic of this episode. Kate begins by asking Katherine to define conscious uncoupling and what led to her becoming a marriage and family psychotherapist. They discuss the notion of fairness being hardwired and how becoming aware of emotions such as guilt, shame and anger are important in the healing journey. Katherine talks about how conscious uncoupling takes work and self-reflection and the barriers that prevent us from achieving it. They explore the stages of conscious uncoupling and what to do if your ex-partner is resistant. Kate and Katherine finish by chatting through an example of how to de-escalate conflict situations with an ex using Katherine’s three-stage technique of; apology, acknowledgement, and amends. 

Katherine is the New York Times bestselling author of Conscious Uncoupling: 5 Steps to Living Happily Even After and Calling in “The One”: 7 Weeks to Attracting the Love of Your Life, as well as an award-winning licensed marriage and family psychotherapist. Over the past two decades, Katherine has taught hundreds of thousands of people from all corners of the globe to create conscious, loving relationships. Katherine’s virtual learning communities include the Conscious Uncoupling & Calling in “The One” Quests with Mindvalley. She also trains and certifies Calling in “The One” Coaches and Conscious Uncoupling Coaches, and provides ongoing supervision and development to a vibrant community of coaches from around the world. Katherine is a Billboard charting, #1 iTunes jazz artist with her CD, Lucky in Love, which was co-written and co-produced with The Brothers Koren.

You can join Katherine for free in a two-part workshop ‘The Art of Conscious Completions: How to Avoid the 5 Most Common Breakup Mistakes That Cause Sufferings, Steal Joy, and Prevent Future Love’ or find out more about her through her website or on social media.

Kate Daly is the Co-founder of amicable, the online legal service for divorcing and separating couples.